romney had not made the sale. i think what you saw wednesday night was the first opportunity that the average person had to see these two candidates head-to-head for an extended period of time, and when they saw that, guess who won? romney won. he was confident in that plan. the president was in a situation where he couldn't defend the last four years. maybe that's not because he is not a good debater. we know he is a good debater. he couldn't defend the last four years because you can't defend it. you can't defend not getting the job done. i think that's -- this has changed. yesterday's one last thing, candy. yesterday we had 150,000 doors being knocked on in ohio. we have great energy. the governor is going to win the state. it's going to be close. he is going to win. >> governor strickland, without sort of getting into more debate performance and how the president did or didn't do, do you think that mitt romney perceived as the winner by a large margin picks up steam now in ohio that you all have to push up aga